Gotstang should be called Gotfriends...

[sicboy]

a seperate show judged buy a pannel of "experts" is how its done.

[tobedeleted_blnpony05]

a seperate show judged buy a pannel of "experts" is how its done.

sorry...maybe I got off track are we talking about the face-offs or the car show??? Either way if you use a select few to decide who's ride is better it takes the member participation out of the face-offs...side bets sounds like more fun to me

[fordfanboi]

I like the side bet option but the jury...not a good idea. ppl will them say that the jury members were not fair and that would cause more post like this...my.02

Well, it'd be anonymous who voted for that faceoff, but as someone already stated, it takes the fun out if it since you can't participate in all faceoffs.

[SAVGE 89]

The more DIFFICULT path is to come up with a way to minimize the popularity contest. I've thought of a few possibilities, but none have been tested. One is to have a "jury duty" style voting system where the server requests random members to vote on the battle. Another possibility is to give additional points to those who choose the better ride ( winner ) correctly - kinda like a "side bet". This would motivate people to pick who they feel has the better ride since they'd have a better chance of gaining additional points. Now, this method could still work with an autospread system since it would base the "side bet" on votes excluding the autospread. These are ideas I've kicked around, but haven't hashed out all the side effects yet. That's where ya'll would come in.

Well, why stop there? I mean - if you truely want "fairness" then you need to make a separate catagory for cars that have sponsorship. People who get stuff for free or at a sizeable discount really have a huge unfair advantage over those who pay retail - like most of us. I just find it odd people are more then willing to shout foul against a popularity contest, yet think it's OK for their sponsored ride to compete with us normal folk. Or should we just change the name to "GotSponsors?"

[tobedeleted_blnpony05]

"GotSponsors?" thats funny either way there are ppl who are gonna bitch when they lose...no way around that. If you use the jury system it's no fun for those who don't get picked to vote and with the betting system ppl are still going to vote for which ever car they want...I think at this point the option to turn off face-offs is working well...there have been no fights in the face-offs since J implemented that. I say lets do the betting for points but let the ppl choose if they want to do a side bet....

[YsOffcr]

i got an idea. get some friends.....

I think this horse is dead, and been beat enough. My 2 cents.

[fordfanboi]

I think at this point the option to turn off face-offs is working well...there have been no fights in the face-offs since J implemented that.

Now that I'm 1 day less of a noob I've noticed that there are VERY few faceoffs. If a spread system was introduced, then peeps may be more likely to join since they'd have a better chance. Now, that's only useful if you'd like to see a ton of faceoffs running each day.

Side note - the former site I was on had a separate page for each "faceoff" and some advertisements on each page. Since everyone voted on all "faceoffs" and constantly checked the scores, the site made some good bank off the "faceoffs".

[SAVGE 89]

"GotSponsors?" thats funny

I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of things that "fairness" encompasses. I do know J will do his level best in making the best decisions possible to address everyone's concerns. It certainly won't be easy... but from what I've seen, that's just the type of thing J excells at. Good luck buddy - you have my support

[spiffy]

i like to look threw there pages and compare the cars then i vote on what is best i rarely vote for request and only once *today* have i ever asked for a vote.. i usualy dont except challanges from cars that look beter then mine pretty much because i dont think most people on here even look at the profiles or very far past page one