* JUDGED FACE-OFFS ARE ON HOLD *

[J]

The judged face-offs are currently on HOLD.

The judges and I have determined that in order to have decent judged face-offs we will be requiring everyone to 'sign up' for classification to compete in the judged face-offs. When signing up you will be put on a list for the judges to review your site. Once they review your site you will be put into one of the five following classes.

Stock

Lightly Modified

Moderately Modified

Heavily Modified

Custom

So far the judges have reviewed the following people and put them into their appropriate classes.

Here is the link: http://www.gotstang.com/membersbyclass.php

The link to 'sign up' to be reviewed to compete in the judged face-offs is still in the works: http://www.gotstang.com/membersbyclass.php#signup


Once we have enough people classified, you will only be allowed to challenge people in your class or a higher class. This will no longer be determined by rank points.

We feel this will level the playing field EVEN MORE.

[stolenheron]

where and when can I sign up?

[auriansmustang]

where to sign up?

[Fastfordboy]

What determines where you are placed? Are there set guidelines for each class?

[blown93feature]

By the looks of it it's still under the works. I would say they have gone and classified the ones that have been in faceoffs already judging by the list so far.

[2003BlackSVT]

By the looks of it it's still under the works. I would say they have gone and classified the ones that have been in faceoffs already judging by the list so far.

Nope, hadn't done me yet.....so I signed up to be classsified....much better idea J.... keeps it a lil fairer

[J]

LINK UPDATED: http://www.gotstang.com/membersbyclass.php#signup

[The Guardian]

So what is moderately modified?

[J]

More then just basic exterior interior and performance mods... usually all 3

[The Guardian]

So when I get my turbo or supercharger I can bounce up? When I get another five grand to spend on my stang I guess I will be moderately modified.

More then just basic exterior interior and performance mods... usually all 3

[J]

So when I get my turbo or supercharger I can bounce up? When I get another five grand to spend on my stang I guess I will be moderately modified.

Nah... my supercharger wasnt 5 Gs

[trey3.8]

J,

Moderately modified, my car? You've got to be kidding me? I've tons of money invested. Perhaps no one has done as much work to their interiors so they don't know what it costs to do fiberglass work nowadays, not to mention electronics, etc. Bump me up into heavily modified at least. That way I don't have to hear anyone complain if I take on someone I'm not supposed to.

trey3.8

[coopdog21]

J,

Moderately modified, my car? You've got to be kidding me? I've tons of money invested. Perhaps no one has done as much work to their interiors so they don't know what it costs to do fiberglass work nowadays, not to mention electronics, etc. Bump me up into heavily modified at least. That way I don't have to hear anyone complain if I take on someone I'm not supposed to.

trey3.8

i think you should be in custom

[Scott 01Cobra]

J,

Moderately modified, my car? You've got to be kidding me? I've tons of money invested. Perhaps no one has done as much work to their interiors so they don't know what it costs to do fiberglass work nowadays, not to mention electronics, etc. Bump me up into heavily modified at least. That way I don't have to hear anyone complain if I take on someone I'm not supposed to.

trey3.8

Yo Trey - if that's how you feel - IE: that your car should be in the heavily modified class ..... why did you just challenge someone who would certainly be in the Lightly modified class, to a face-off????? If I recall, the judges gave you a hard time about that!

[wldponi03]

Just a quick question what about the ones waiting to be judged that we have points wagered on!!! Will they be judged or will it start from scratch...Just wondering!!!!

[J]

I will be setting up a section for people who have disagreements.. this will allow the judges to take a second look at your website. Remember we can only go on what is shown in the pictures.

[tobedeleted_blnpony05]

I will be setting up a section for people who have disagreements.. this will allow the judges to take a second look at your website. Remember we can only go on what is shown in the pictures.

I'm confused (nothing new right) ...can we do a best overall with ppl in our class as best over all or are we required to have pis of the undercarrage??? Mine is stock...so I will lose poins for that?? I need details!!!!!

[Slow 5.0]

Cool, J. I would definately like mine reviewed. I'm in the lightly modified and I believe my 86' satisfy all performance, interior and exterior to be placed in moderate modified, even though the interior/exterior modification that were taken from factory parts from 79-82, and 87-93 mustangs.

[HookandLadder]

Mine's stock..........REALLY!.........it is!!!

[electricgreen]

I'm in agreement on my class! Since the greeen one's about as stock as a rock, lol. Works for me, I show in the stock classes when I go to "live" shows anyway.

[Scott 01Cobra]

Folks,

please realize that the classes were designed because the judges felt VERY STRONG CARS were taking on VERY weak cars. This wasn't fair but the judges were forced to pick the more show-worthy car and therefore reward them with usually 500 points. Look back at the comments and you will see they were pissed. So ..... now, a car in the custom class can not take on any other class for best overall car. However, if you are in a less modified class you can challenge a higher class.

I guess the question that comes to me is .... can someone challenge ANYONE if it is a specific class (NOT OVERALL). For example - I felt that J has done a great job on his exterior, so I challenged him to that - not overall car (I've obviously spent a lot more). It was more fooling around than anything - I think most of you know I don't typically do the challenges - or the hunts - I have fun being here and watching people progress. Or in the example of TREY, perhaps a higher classed car could challenge him to "Interior" - I think there should be allowances for this - but I also feel someone should approve this first.

J, perhaps there should be a "Waiting area" for those other challenges and if a judge approves the challenge then it goes through. This way those specific challenges can keep it interesting. Just and idea for you.

[Scott 01Cobra]

I didn't mean to offend you ..... if I did.

I 100% agree about the regular face-offs. Why do you think I have NEVER entered one? I went in a few tourny's last summer and beat some cars but them lost to others. When I saw what I and others were losing to I reaized the buddy system is what it was all about, and I have only met a few on here - lol. It doesn't bother me though - if you accept it - it's fine.

It's like the participant voting at shows - I don't like them, although I usually do well, I hate seeing fantastic cars overlooked.

I certainly wasn't expecting your answer "To prove a point". You lost to your competitor in a regular face off. That's why you challenged him in the judged. That makes perfect sense to me. You certainly did prove your point. Nicely done BTW.

[24kmach]

At all the shows last year the term "modified" is a tough call. We all have different notions as to what "modified" is. One show will say you have up to three mods and your still in a stock class. What is a mod? Is different valve stem caps a mod? Most folks try to stay in a stock class. Small mods up to and including your chouce of wheels I think still leaves you in a stock class.Big mods as in blowers,gull wing doors, body kits,wild sound systems that use up the back seat,etc. put you in a modified class.

[blown93feature]

ok, here it is in a nut shell. Trey I see your point in the old school faceoffs and I had said it time and time again that the outcomes were not what they should have been so this judged deal is a welcome change in my book. I believe that it wasn't only your face off that sparked the change in the way things are done in the face offs but just another example of what not to do when it comes to the face offs. I personaly like having my ride in a class so that it levels the playing field a little more and makes it more interesting for all. The other part of this is that people are running away with points because of the obvious winner and no real rules to speak of so I believe your going to see changes in how things are done.

I also believe that by having guide lines for not only judges but the members to as to how they set up there face off and how there judged will be a benifit to everyone especialy if people are in a class that won't have a automatic blow out plus I think people should be held accountable for going after other members sites that don't have good quality pixs for the judges to go by. I believe this will also make it more difficult for members to just go after the obvious winner because both sites will display adequit photos and the wagering crowd will take more time in the decision as to which car they put there points on.

I would say that if people took the time to think about what they're angry about before they type than things wouldn't get out of hand, or feelings being hurt because of miscomunication.
With that being said I would say that having 5 different classes to be placed in is a good thing and if you think that you want to be put in the next class up than asked to be put in there and if you don't do so well than there is no one to blame than yourself right.

[Scott 01Cobra]

ok, here it is in a nut shell. Trey I see your point in the old school faceoffs and I had said it time and time again that the outcomes were not what they should have been so this judged deal is a welcome change in my book. I believe that it wasn't only your face off that sparked the change in the way things are done in the face offs but just another example of what not to do when it comes to the face offs. I personaly like having my ride in a class so that it levels the playing field a little more and makes it more interesting for all. The other part of this is that people are running away with points because of the obvious winner and no real rules to speak of so I believe your going to see changes in how things are done.

I also believe that by having guide lines for not only judges but the members to as to how they set up there face off and how there judged will be a benifit to everyone especialy if people are in a class that won't have a automatic blow out plus I think people should be held accountable for going after other members sites that don't have good quality pixs for the judges to go by. I believe this will also make it more difficult for members to just go after the obvious winner because both sites will display adequit photos and the wagering crowd will take more time in the decision as to which car they put there points on.

I would say that if people took the time to think about what they're angry about before they type than things wouldn't get out of hand, or feelings being hurt because of miscomunication.
With that being said I would say that having 5 different classes to be placed in is a good thing and if you think that you want to be put in the next class up than asked to be put in there and if you don't do so well than there is no one to blame than yourself right.

Yep - well said ....