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SUCK...that is all
I guess 2V GT getting in the 10's through the 1/4 on pure motor doesn't impress you huh. :rolleyes:
Who's in the 10's on motor alone?
With 281 cubes no less?
Are you stereotyping 2V's? That's a lot like profiling, and profiling is wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by thumpin347
10 sec N/A GT
The Slip
Yeah, mod motors really suck.... :looney:
just a 4.6L 281 ci 2V GT that will whoop some serious ass.
lol
Over Head Cam = the win :D
Nope...Ken's car is bored .20 over to 283Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaGT
I missed that, but no less impressive to have a 2V in the 10's on motor. ;)
yeah but for those that work on cars...and i'm assuming none of you tore one down to a bare shortblock...they suck ass. my friend just got his P-51, patriot heads and VT cams, and it was a dirty SOB to disassemble.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaGT
oh, and pushrod motors have been going 10s for years...so unless they do something ground breaking, theres nothing impressive about them
I not going to argue that they are a b!tch when it comes to a tear down, but I don't know of anybody with a 302 in the 10's on motor alone. One of my best friends is in the 9's with a 86 fox, but he has built and rebuilt that motor countless times. He's got it stroked to 347 and uses a 225 hp shot of juice to get him there. On motor w/ slicks he's in the 12's. Now that's with 64 more ci's to play with... but let's talk about the milder guys.. tell me about somebody with a stroked 308 in the 10's on motor and you'll have my attention just the same. I have nothing against pushrod's at all, but you gotta take notice when somebody puts a 2V in the 10's on motor.
Jon
that car you linked is not a stock rotating assembly...thats a highly built 2v running high compression short block running race fuel. those heads are race ported, the cams are custom grinds. everything on that motor is race prepped...20k in the motor. they just dont tell you in the article to prevent revealing a racer's set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaGT
now...i've got buddies that run high 10s on 306 set ups. 11.5:1 compression, worked AFR 185 heads, larger valves, ported systemax II lower with sheetmetal intake, built auto on slicks. 20k to build the entire car.
trust me, i know what a mod motor can do...and i am pretty impressed with them. and i'm sure NA mod motor cars can only get quicker when new head casts are released with box style intake manifolds. it just takes alot more money to build a decent mod motor than it is to build a decent pushrod motor.
my point was, that for those that work on cars, they are a major pain in the ass. 2 days, and we still havent finished his car. i could have my car done in a day. sorry if you got offended mafia, but that wasnt how i meant it
:werd:Quote:
Originally Posted by thumpin347
I wasn't offended at all. Your comment just seemed to me like it you were crapping on their performance. :fart: You've got no arguement from me about how much of a pain they are to work on.
As for the car I mentioned, I of course realize that it's a built motor, it just makes me :drool: that these 2V's have so much performance potential. :beerchug:
You wouldn't want to help me install my Cams would you?? :dance:
once the hardcore aftermarket opens up for the 2v motors, they are definately going to be bad ass. they just need a couple more box style intakes such as the p51 but at a more affordable price. i'd also like to see trick flow come out with some bad ass heads for the mod motor. there's no question the 2v mod is a decent motor. i havent come across any real street n/a 2 valves that run hard though...with the exception of my friend's car, at least he hopes :thumpupn:
Also, I was getting 27mpg(hwy) in my 98cobra with 3.73s.I have never had a 300+hp pushrod engine get anywhere near that.I have 4.10s with a 2v and get 24mpg on the hwy.
That's not all, that car only weighs 2875lbs WITH Driver. Jeez, I could stuff a 302 with bolt ons into a Civic and do the same thing...
My balls your chin. And I am sure your 347 is gonna last a long time. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thumpin347
Thumpin 347 is right. They can make power but they are the most God awful things to have to work on. It took me 4 hours to put the PI intake manifold on. I can only imagine how bad it would be trying to pull heads.
Now, on the other hand, I've seen guy pull a 302, swap out the cam, assemble and install heads, intake new timing chain, put it back in the car and drive it around then be cleaned up for supper.
I just don't think they sound as good as the 4.6's though :D
My 347 will be spanking your ass for as long as your car is on the road...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Js281GT
You're not another one of those who fell for the "347's only last 20K miles" guys are you? The right rotating assy will go 100K no problem...
Besides, those of us who build cars/motors, we won't be happy with what we've got long enough for it to wear out anyway. I'm already planning the next build, and my 347 has less than 5k miles on it.
I swap my cams with the motor still in the car, that can be done in a few hours time once you've "learned the ropes"Quote:
Originally Posted by FastRedPonyCar
That last comment, whew, that's subjective. Guess you've never heard an 11:1 347 thumpin through dumps?
I highly doubt it, maybe if it was a 331 or 342. 100k ya maybe on april 1st :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSlo5.0
I see that you do subscribe to the internet bs. I will from now on discount anything mechanical/technical you have to offer :rolleyes:
Actually, a friend of mine Edgar has a 9 sec 347. Yeah it sounds mean as hell but only the OHC 4.6's have that distinct pinging tone that I love so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSlo5.0
Here's shots of Edgar's car and motor. :devil:
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1619/dsc00421.jpg
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http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1619/dsc00425.jpg
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