Sounds fair to me,they are doing a service for us, so they should be compensated some way.Quote:
Originally Posted by J
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Sounds fair to me,they are doing a service for us, so they should be compensated some way.Quote:
Originally Posted by J
Works for me-what happens if someone challenges one of the judges?
I will do the vote for that judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by electricgreen
Coming Soon: Top Judged Face-Off Gambler. A list of 20 users will be displayed showing points won and lost in the new face-off system.
This is going to be fun to see ......
Total Judged Face-Offs Available increased from 5 to 7.
Is one of the Judges MIA...:rofl: :rofl:
One of the judges has been Murdered. Its a fuckin conspiracy
Yawp......one of the judges is MIA!!! :nutkick:
Yep the judge is MIA...what do we do now?
So far I am liking the new system. So how are the judges picked? Is everybody that is active going to get a shot at being a judge?
Keep checking the site to see if your faceoff is finished? :nailbite:Quote:
Originally Posted by 95mustang302
If you're not in a faceoff, then keep placing side bets? :silly:
No. Thats what the regular face-offs are for. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by The Guardian
Honestly I pick the judges who I feel will give a fair vote based on the CAR, not friends.
I added 'Notify Me of New Judged Face-Offs' to the judged face-off page..
This way you will get a guestbook entry when a new judged face-off is submitted so you can come wager on it :)
http://www.gotstang.com/jfaceoffs.php
You can now Disable JUDGED Face-offs in your profile area.
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Awesome job J!
ok the joke is over.... give me back my 2k points now.....
sounds like you need to re-analyze your voting process. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sicboy
as in life... my opinions dont agree with most...
You have to really compare the cars and see which one fits the title best-its not like the other face offs, where mods and motor are all that matters (unless thats the title, lol). If you've ever been to a judged show, and really paid attention to the judges, ya gotta think like that, IMO. I think the hardest thing to do will be define the name of the faceoff for the challenger, so its not too ambiguous.....
Can somebody with one photo on thier website beat somebody that has a million?
What do all the judges have to take into consideration when voting?
So basically if I upload more pictures then my opponent I win? Im sure there is more involved then picture totals. lol..
The judges take in consideration the title of the face-off and relate that to each of the cars.
IMHO (I'm not a judge, so this is strictly my opinion based on watching the outcomes & based on the concept)-I think it's possible, but unlikely. I mean, say the title was "cleanest ride" and the person with one pic had a spectacular pic of their ride, in it's cleanest state. Now the other person's pics are all of their car filthy, covered in dirt and bugs. I would say in this case quantity wouldn't matter, quality would.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneylynn1977
That said, I think it's really determined by the title. "Best overall car" for instance-each person should have pics of each of the major components, like at a car show (exterior, interior, motor-truck and underbody would be pluses too). They should also have some comments too-what mods were done, or at least where the pic was taken. In a "best paint" face off, each person should have good pics of the exterior, from different angles in a complimentary lighting situation (not at night, or washed out by the high noon sun).
So, I would say the best way to do well is to have good, quality pics that show off all portions of your car, and a good written portion that describes the pics. But again, that's just my non-judge observer opinion and I could be totally wrong :thumpupn:
Addressed the 'judges in face-off' issue. I now have a 'pool' of 6 judges. When a face-off is created, 3 random judges are chosen. Now if a judge decides to enter a face-off there is some logic in there that says randomly choose 3 judges but make sure the judge you choose isnt the challenger or opponent.
I will be giving points out to the judges based on the formula discussed earlier, im testing things right now.
Any Complaints so far? Anything that you think should be added? Let me know.
Looks like fun :thumpupn: Keep it up :beerchug:
Ditto :beerchug:Quote:
Originally Posted by GT100e
There was a problem with the wager totals (thank you blnpony and nicoleb3x3) The top 20 wagerers list has now been updated.
Please be aware that this was in the top 20 chart not in the actual points you received... all of the points have been added and subtracted from your GS points properly.. just the top20 chart was adding up the points incorrectly. Hope that makes sense.
I created a page for all to check up your wager points.. Make sure you are logged in.
click here => http://www.gotstang.com/wagerchecker.php
This shows how your totals are added up (these are not in chronological order.)
I changed the point formula given out to judges. Its been decreased from 25% to 10% of the total wagers on the winner divded by the amount of judges.Quote:
Originally Posted by J
I hope you are all happy now...I have a gambling problem :rofl: :rofl:
I think alot of us will be going to GS Gambling Anonymous :nailbite: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by blnpony05
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Originally Posted by wldponi03
I think ill be the one in the back of the room with a laptop placing bets during GS Gambling Anonymous class...LOL
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Originally Posted by 95mustang302
can I use your laptop??? :rofl: :rofl:
Im going to add a new twist to this wager process. This should keep everyone from wager 500 points everytime because you have a 50/50 chance of getting it.
I need some feedback on this because ill be implementing this soon unless its totally a bad idea.
Lets call this: Gambling streaks. I can even display these... Top streaks.. and keep them recorded even if you end up losing... ha
0 correct gambling wagers otherwise known as a loss - you can wager up to 100 (if you have the GS points) on the next face-offs
1 correct gambling wager - you can wager up to 250 (if you have the GS points) on the next face-offs
2 correct gambling wagers IN A ROW - you can wager up to 500 (if you have the GS points) on the next face-offs
5 correct gambling wagers IN A ROW - you wan wager up to 750 (if you have the GS points) on the next face-offs
10 correct gambling wagers IN A ROW - you can wager up to 1000 (if you have the GS points) on the next face-offs
If at anytime you LOSE a wager.. you will be put back at 100 points available.. but your streak will be recorded.
(From a post in another face-off section)
How are judges picked?
1. The judges should have an artistic eye for cars able to see the pose (yunno, a beauty shot, car set-up (what it takes to accomplish a process - whether on a new car or an older car.) web design, graphic layout and so on are all a plus.
2. Everyone MUST understand that judging needs to be based on the quality of photos YOU post and not just the quality of the car. This is a web based competition and images are everything. You may have the best car on Got Stang, but if your photos suck, you aren't going to win that many face-offs. There are a lot of great cars on this site and the photos for these cars is pitiful.
3. Participants need judges to be... well, blunt actually. They need to vote without worrying about reprocussions from members. If you pictures suck and you get told that you should deal with it. You want to do face-offs then improve the photos and improve your website.
4. Tips, hints, ideas and suggestions by the judges should be taken for what they are... jjust suggestions no matter how blunt to make either the car or images of the car better in order to compete in the face-offs or present your car to it's best showing.
5. Members should know who the judges are. It will keep them honest and trustworthy in their judging.
6. What made them vote the way they did should be mentioned in the area set aside for the judges comments.
7. If a judge is being fair they don't need to be replaced unless they tire of judging or the members want change.
8. Perhaps the members could vote on who they want to be a judge. Let them nominate, the nominees agree and then hold a vote that only J's and his people total up. If the majority choose their judges they should be able to abide by the voting. Eh...
10. Judges should get points for being a judge also. This is a point based website after all.
11. Judges should be available to the members by email or whatever to help with suggestions to get their got stang site looking strong with better images, design and so on. This is about making the overall site better for everyone.
(from yet another post in the face-off area)
People are still forgetting the big picture. 85% of the voting is going to come from the pictures, the quality, and the layout of the website. The best car is not going to win just because it's the best car. The is a web-based competition. Your site must reflect the quality of the car. You can't just through 100 pictures up there and expect to win. The owner of the car has to be willing to do a quality layout on the website for their car.
I know the face-off you are talking about. I wagered on Wild-Poni on that one. I thought the pictures of the dirty engine compartment was a huge put-off. I didn't care that much for the layout of either web-site that much, but I am a person into web design, graphics, photos and so forth. but Wildponi's pictures are quality images and they present her car in a nice fashion. I too thought she should have won that face-off.
This is another reason the judges should write more stuff about their decision making. What they liked about the car and didn't like. What they enjoyed about the website and what they thought could be improved upon. If the site is awesome, the picture quality on the mark, the car shown at great angles and the site design is good then it can actually come down to just the car. That being said people will have cars that a judge will not like something done to the car and it could keep you from winning, but THAT is the same as any live competition you enter.
Crimson ..... excellent notes - I agree with everything you said .... well done ;)
Last but not least - judges should NEVER base even the slightest decision of their choice by WHO the person is. Judging has to be fair - thier honest pick of the winner of that contest - period.
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Originally Posted by J
I don't really want to be limited in any way in the betting...I don't bet on every face-off....I say leave it the was it is :beerchug:
I want to add this tidbit of information to this thread if I may. I have been in several carshows with my own car and from a three demetional prespective when it's the real deal judges are brutal with there comments and blunt statements and there is no way to hide your flaws in a car unlike this type of online judging faceoff here. So with that being said it is very important to have several good quality pixs taken to prove your ride. This is what I was trying to explain when this thread was originaly started to help people understand what is expected of them when they enter a face-off. The judging is based on the title of the face-off and so you need to have photo's to support your claim. In the face off with wild pony I don't agree with the popular claim that she had the better overall car because there isn't enough pixs to prove her claim as best overall and there is little done to the car period. The fact that the 04' had a dirtier engine then hers was a deduct point but didn't justify putting her over him in my eyes. The fact that he has a photo and took the hit say's more and does less damage in a face -off then no photo at all in my eyes and in a real world situation. I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression of me either on this because I love both of those mach's and I have no beef with any one on here that is for sure. I also love wildponie's car and wouldn't mind having it in my garage at all :thumpupn:
To be even more brutally honest about this if you are going to place your ride in a best overall face off then it should be a all areas of the car face off. The photos should include undercarriage,engine,interior,trunk or hatch, and exterior both sides front and rear. This is not saying that you have to have everything modded just pixs to prove and hopefully you have the better car that's all.
I like to see all this particapation in these face-offs this is an awsome addition to J's site and I think it will bring back alot of the inactive members in the future but don't forget it can drive them away just as fast if it get's out of hand! This is where it's up to you to be mature about the outcomes and to have fun with it. I also will add that if you plan on going up against someone then title it appropriate to what you have to offer and go after another member's site that atleast has the pixs to properly be judged according to the title and make sure you yourself has the pixs to prove your claim.
Just got your e-mail J and Me personally I love the concept of the Judged Face-Off's and the only suggestion I have would have to be the rotation of the judges. I was thinking monthly but I have seen where someone suggested weekly. But that's just me.