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I get it done illegally now. My heads & cams are waiting in my closet. I will have 350rwhp before the blower & I still have the longtubes to put on but my car is too low for now. Prolly close to 370 for a little 4.6. I am hoping for 400 when I install my stroker block & add my heads, cams, & headers. :nya:
Have you got your 347 dynoed yet or taken it to the track? Right now I am putting my mustang on a diet. It weighs a little over 3300 lbs.
you will be 10s my ass...learn a bit about drag racing...first off, your tranny will drop from the bottom of your car...your axle wont stand 3 passes on full slicks, and lastly, how are you going to get all that power to the ground??Quote:
Originally Posted by Js281GT
remember, anyone can make power...its getting the power to the ground. getting a car into 11s isnt a simple task but it isnt hard...its getting it in the sub 11 second zone that is hard. you sound like nothing but a bench racer.
my friend has an all motor 306 puts out nothing more than 380 whp, but runs 10s. hows that? its all suspension that gets the car going down the track straight and sticking on a 5.5k launch.
guarantee you cant break 11.7 with your car even with all that precious work you are doing to it...and 11.7 is me being very generous
there are plenty 1st gen 289's out there that do it all motor, on an affordable budget putting out 375+rwhpQuote:
Originally Posted by Droptop2001GT
Let me get this straight, you are going to make 370 rwhp before you put on the blower, then you add the blower and go for 600 rwhp? What kind of compression do you plan on running? A great flowing head/cam/intake setup wont make 370 rwhp with 8.5:1 compression on a mod motor. And there's now way that your stock internals will support 600rwhp. What am I missing here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Js281GT
I think he's planning a forged stroker shortblock as a part of the build. He's 25, just getting into the game, reality will reveal itself soon enough...
Well, I hope it doesn't take me that long. I'm just 22.
i think ur on the right track, i'm 21 myself and i find myself to be educated in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Droptop2001GT
i just laugh my ass off at some of the claims i read on boards, and i LOVE pointing out the facts, and to see them throw me some other BS...i love it...seems like everyone has a monster between the shock towers of their engine bay, yet i have a HARD time finding them on the streets...like i always say
internet racers= :loser:
You guys are gay. I just wish you lived closer. & thumper how many grudge matches have you won? Lets see some timeslips you fuckin ninny!
I am already in the 12's, you dont think I can gain a second with a blower? :loser:Quote:
Originally Posted by thumpin347
I just hate the fact that you come in here sayin that mod motors suck. Nothing of coarse beats cubic inches. I can take a 5.4 navigator motor & stroked it to a 6.0 then maybe I would be in the same category as you far as cubic inches. I am talkin about a little 4.6. The most I can get is 310 cubes. I do agree that pushrod are easier to work on, but modulars are more effecient.
see...thats the difference...you think you can gain a second simply with a blower...12s are easy to hit, anyone can hit 12s. getting into the low 11s-10s is hard work, or 10s as you've claimed...it comes down to suspension geometry, and dialing in your suspension set up...meaning, tubular k-member up front, coilovers up front, a form of a drag linked rear, posi, 31 spline axles, and the list goes on and on, to be consistent in the 11s.
the horsepower game is fun, but the drag game comes down to more than just horsepower, plain and simple.
as far as my drag racing...i'm not a racer, nor do i claim to be. can i build a car to race? sure...can i be competitive in sanctioned events...absolutely...do i have the money?? HELLS NO! i'd rather think of combos, and share the info with my friends who have the money to race in sanctioned events, and until i have money to build a car, i dont claim any times out of my car. its been in the 12s, so what? everyone and their mother is in the 12s, so it isnt much of a feat to me.
cmon man...we're all cool guys, no need to call us assholes...we are just discussing cars here. i like working on mod motors, and the thread was in a joking manner, until some guys felt their vaginas aching and called me out on being wrong. i know you can make power out of those cars, but have you seen the price for cams? or what a bullitt conversion costs to replace your plastic intake manifold? at those prices, the only person to build a respectable motor will have to be mr money bags, thats all i was saying originally.
anyway, no beef man...you're my buddy.
oh, and a navi motor in a GT wont do you squat. thats why you dont see many running around. too much work involved, like swapping k-members and front end suspension components, hacking at the shock towers, custom headers, and theres no parts to buy for a 5.4, so in the end its a pointless swap, and thats a fact.
anyway, good luck on your car man...sounds like you have big plans for it, and keep us posted on the progress of the car :thumpupn:
How is going from a 12.92 to a "10 second car" only one second apart? Last I checked, you need to drop 2 whole seconds. Its like thumpin 347 said, that takes a lot more than just power. You're going to have to start fine-tuning your suspension just to get into the 11's.
:nya: Whell sence were allin a pissing mach at midwest right now i have a big chife motor with a 110 mm turbo yes that is the biggest in the us right now so ha to you all if you have turbo ? ast me i eill be mor then happy to help
theres no pissing match going on here...just straightening out fact from myth...thats allQuote:
Originally Posted by JPRCobra
It is not going to be strictly a drag car. I love road racing more. I already have my suspension done from maximum motorsports. It hooks. If i din't live in Cali I would have already have put on longtubes/cams. Ya thumper I know they are expensive because you need two of them. Dohc 4. I know my car is a biatch, I have to raise my motor to put headers on. On five oh's you dont have to do that. Shit you can put a cam in a five oh with the block still in the car. I am just waiting to find someone to pass me so I can put on my longtubes & cams, then get some ported heads. My goal is to be in the 11's n/a than once I accomplished that, then I want to throw my 4.9 stroker & blower combo in there & hope for the best. But it will still handle great. :beerchug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Droptop2001GT
ummm...a road race suspension is definately not good for drag racing...its actually worse than a stock suspension setup for the strip
What I have done to my suspension is bilsteins, (sports) Maximum caster cambers, maximum super subs, and sportline springs. It seriously handles great. So you think I shouldn't add the panhard bar or tourqe arm, if I want to drag it. So you think I might as well get a five oh coupe & add everything drag in it like drag springs/shocks, unstead of adding those parts? I like coupes that's what my buddies have that work at maximum. Theirs weigh 2900 lbs. I just think mine would be better for handling since it is wider.
SoCal is like a disease that infects the brain.
And you have beautiful weather & a nice ocean.
i never said you should buy a 5 oh coupe...JEEZ, stop thinking i'm attacking you all the time...i'm simply pointing out facts...you do what you want with your car...i'm done with giving you any sort of advice...you spend your money the way you want to and put the power to the ground the way you want to...Quote:
Originally Posted by Js281GT
lol I don't think you are attacking me. I just want the best of both worlds & I guess I can't, since I want a torque arm & panhard bar. I guess I will get a coupe, a project coupe. 2900 lbs is pretty light. What do you think about the factory five cobras? Write down your responses, I want to know. I have to go now b/c I am off work. I will read your responses on Monday, but have a good weekend & enjoy the best superbowl of all time. :beerchug:
:nya: one of the better kits out there other then a shelby kit ther nice and if your not all hard core race you will relly like on the other hand stayy the Hell Away from Street Beast the where under a difrent name and went und 4 poor quality kits when we almost turn them away any more the tat bug of a pain in the ass
the factory five kit is sweet. if you have the money, time, and know how, you'll have alot of fun building one. i'd suggest you find a fox roller with all the running gear...i.e. spindles, brakes, etc. you can throw in a steeda 4 or 5 link out back, and build a decent stroker and drop it in, with a t-56...you wont need alot of power in one to go fast..400hp will get you high 11s in something that light
speak english manQuote:
Originally Posted by JPRCobra
I had the MM panhard on my 95, definitely go for that. The torque arm too. It will greatly improve traction, I'll eventually go back to that setup so long as I can retain tailpipes. I think MM has reworked their panhard to support that. If not I'll go with the new Steeda 5 link rear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Js281GT
As far as 11's go...I'd settle for mid to low 12's on your motor with that suspension setup. What you'll eventually end up doing is building a 450rwhp car than can still turn 11's with a 2.2 to 2.4 sec 60ft time. You'll just have to have mad power to make up for the crappy launches. Your trap speeds will be likely around 126mph. I think you're on the right path with your suspension so far, just don't expect it launch like car with 90/10's and skinnies. I much prefer a corner carving experience to a hard launch.