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[Joe Friday]

Joe Friday as the V8 forum moderator :D

[J]

We need someone to second that...

[My Cobra]

thats all it takes? LOL Well i will second that.

[thumpin347]

NO NO...Thump for V8 mod

[232stang]

232stang as v6 forum moderator
i already gave the forum a great tq converter write up, the only reason i have it redirecting to another forum is because once in a while i read it over and edit it, and i dont want to have to re-edit it in every forum, every time i notice i misspelled a word or wrote something wrong

[232stang]

Joe Friday as the V8 forum moderator :D
i second that

[thumpin347]

both joe and i as mods

[NoSlo5.0]

Do you turn your own wrenches? That oughta be a qualifier...if so, I'd second you both.

[Joe Friday]

I'm a mustang MAN therefore yes I do every install, maintenance, and upgrade my self, Unless, I do not have the proper equipment. IE Gear install :D

[Hockeyb0y3]

I'm a mustang MAN therefore yes I do every install, maintenance, and upgrade my self, Unless, I do not have the proper equipment. IE Gear install :D

werd, preach on bratha, im waiting to get a engine hoist so i can swap my k-member

[Joe Friday]

werd, preach on bratha, im waiting to get a engine hoist so i can swap my k-member

If you're just going to swap the k member, then you wont really need an engine hoist. You can support the motor with a jack if that’s what your going to do, that is unless you plan on pulling the motor to have something done to it. Here is an article with detailed step by step removal and installation of a K member on 96-04 mustangs, it's for a long tube install but should work for a k member swap


Click Me (http://www.fnsweet.com/garage/lt_install/index.shtml#1)

[Hockeyb0y3]

If you're just going to swap the k member, then you wont really need an engine hoist. You can support the motor with a jack if that’s what your going to do, that is unless you plan on pulling the motor to have something done to it. Here is an article with detailed step by step removal and installation of a K member on 96-04 mustangs, it's for a long tube install but should work for a k member swap


Click Me (http://www.fnsweet.com/garage/lt_install/index.shtml#1)

interesting info, i might look into this, thanks for the heads up man

[NoSlo5.0]

Safety first, an engine hoist is the safest way to get it done.

[NoSlo5.0]

I'm a mustang MAN therefore yes I do every install, maintenance, and upgrade my self, Unless, I do not have the proper equipment. IE Gear install :D

So I guess that makes the three of us so far? Not having the correct equipment doesn't defer the job to a shop, it's an excuse to buy the right equipment :lol:

[thumpin347]

the only thing i havent done myself on my car was the gear install...i've done everything else, from my nitrous install, to heads/cam/intake manifold, to doing my shocks, struts, springs, control arms, cc plates, and everything else in between...i.e. exhaust, headers, tb, etc, but any monkey with a wrench can do that

[232stang]

Not having the correct equipment doesn't defer the job to a shop, it's an excuse to buy the right equipment :lol:
i agree with this

[NoSlo5.0]

the only thing i havent done myself on my car was the gear install...i've done everything else, from my nitrous install, to heads/cam/intake manifold, to doing my shocks, struts, springs, control arms, cc plates, and everything else in between...i.e. exhaust, headers, tb, etc, but any monkey with a wrench can do that

I built my 347, and the car it resides in, not to mention the car from which it all came. Maybe I'll detail it on my website...Heck, I'm an electronics nut too, I built my amps from from the printed circuit board up, nothing is too difficult, too easy, too large, or too small. That's sounds too much like bragging when you read it, but I's just lettin you know where I'm coming from with my comments.

I can appreciate folks who at least try to do it on their own. I don't feel too much love for those who pick out pretty parts from a catalog and pay the shop to install it all for them. I'd feel differently I'm sure if I wasn't able to find the working end of a ratchet. To each their own I guess.

So, do we have some new V8 mods?

[232stang]

I built my 347, and the car it resides in, not to mention the car from which it all came. Maybe I'll detail it on my website...Heck, I'm an electronics nut too, I built my amps from from the printed circuit board up, nothing is too difficult, too easy, too large, or too small. That's sounds too much like bragging when you read it, but I's just lettin you know where I'm coming from with my comments.
man i hate electronics so much, but that is badass if you can do it yourself




So, do we have some new V8 mods?
we should, you guys both seem very qualified


and i should be v6 forum mod :D

[thumpin347]

I built my 347, and the car it resides in, not to mention the car from which it all came. Maybe I'll detail it on my website...Heck, I'm an electronics nut too, I built my amps from from the printed circuit board up, nothing is too difficult, too easy, too large, or too small. That's sounds too much like bragging when you read it, but I's just lettin you know where I'm coming from with my comments.

I can appreciate folks who at least try to do it on their own. I don't feel too much love for those who pick out pretty parts from a catalog and pay the shop to install it all for them. I'd feel differently I'm sure if I wasn't able to find the working end of a ratchet. To each their own I guess.

So, do we have some new V8 mods?
i cant stand check writers. there are times i'm at the track, and my buddy and i drive to the track an hour and a half. anyway, while a long cool down with bags of ice, we usually walk by, and talk to the other guys. i'd say 25% of them have someone wrenching on a car that was transported by a trailer. all basic 12 second street cars. i always see guys messing with timing, and OBD programmers, so we'll walk up and be like, "nice car", the guy working on it would say, "oh this isnt mine, its actually that guy's over there." HA, i lose all sorts of respect for them and their cars. and there are usually a handful of these guys.

anyway, i'm going with a stroker set up in the next year. probably a 331. i'm just debating on going with a mail order from DSS, or to actually tear down the stock block, and throw in the rotating assembly. it all comes down to machining costs, and whether i really need to go with an absolute bullet proof bottom end. i've been tossing ideas around for a sweet NA combo revving past 7k, or upgrading my wet kit to a direct port setup, or boosting it through a D1, or something with a T-66 thumper.

what rotating assembly are you running? can you tell me a bit more about your set up?

heres my basic motor set up:

its a stock block 302. the heads are trick flow TW heads that i had ported to 1262 on the intake ports, with a 3 angle valve job, exhaust ports were polished and ported a lil bit. the springs are comp cams triple springs for up to .650 lift. basically i outfitted these heads to go on a stroker but couldnt come up with what was needed for a decent rotating assembly and a bare block i could have bored while keeping my car driveable.

the intake manifold is a performer rpm, with the entire runner lengths ported and polished to a 1262 on the lower and the upper has been worked but not as extensively as the lower. i also have 3 cams sitting in my garage. one of them is in the motor right now, comp cams xe270, and the other 2 are xe274 and xe282.

everything on my current 302 will be moved to the future 331 or 347, and my goals are 350-375 to the wheels N/A. 11:1 compression, maybe 11.5:1 with a direct port 150 shot. i still have to consider whether the CR is too high. i've been told that with the proper rotating assembly, compression ratio shouldnt be much of a factor in something as little as a 150 shot. what are your thoughts on this combo? the tranny running the car is a lentech built street terminator plus, with 2800stall. decent tranny, i may go with a freshen up with upgraded shafts and stuff, a 3200 stall and transbrake, before the motor is dropped in. my friend has a jerico 4 speed with less than 500 miles on it that i'm considering.

[thunderbolt64]

It's definitely more fun, when ya tear one all the way down, then put it back together. I took so many rolls of film this last time, just to document everything. Right now, I'm helping a buddy with his project. I hope to get a '67 Mustang Coupe for my wife in a year or so, and do it again.

[thumpin347]

It's definitely more fun, when ya tear one all the way down, then put it back together. I took so many rolls of film this last time, just to document everything. Right now, I'm helping a buddy with his project. I hope to get a '67 Mustang Coupe for my wife in a year or so, and do it again.
it would be my first time tearing it down to a bare block and re-assembling one. i was thinking that i could go mail order, and throw my stuff on that, and with the stock shortblock, i could tear that down, send it out for hot tank and a machining, and slowly build up a 306 shortblock with a stock forged crank, and decent forged rods and pistons, and stuff the xe270 in there, and sell it off for the experience.

[mysteed]

mysteed as the V6 forum moderator and Joe Friday as the V8 mod! :devil:

[232stang]

mysteed as the V6 forum moderator and Joe Friday as the V8 mod! :devil:232stang and mysteed for v6 forum moderator

[mysteed]

232stang and mysteed for v6 forum moderator
yeah. 232stang and mysteed as V6 forum mods

[thumpin347]

laughing my ass off :rofl: everyone is asking to be a mod. i guess joe friday can take V8 mod, i dont think i have the time to be a mod on here, and i'm too opinionated, and might offend people, and then become the mod nobody likes :lol:

[232stang]

i am on here all the time, and i know alot about v6 stangs

[mysteed]

i am on here all the time, and i know alot about v6 stangs
me 2. I specialize in V6 stuff and I'd love to be a appearence mod

[thumpin347]

me 2. I specialize in V6 stuff and I'd love to be a appearence mod
as long as you take that mustang banner off the windshield...car looks clean man, now find yourself a 5.0 to stuff in there

[NoSlo5.0]

Whoa now, I don't want to be a mod, I just want to be sure the guys who are are "qualified" . Sounds like we have a couple of winners, and the V6 forum is covered too.

Thumpin347, my combo is a little low key as 347's go. I re-used most of the parts from my 302 based motor. The rotating assy. is a TMD cheapo using 5.315 I beams and the Probe pistons with the offset wrist pins (for improving rod ratio). The crank is a nodular iron piece straight from mainland China. The whole kit was $850, and that's primarily why it's between my fenders. The cr is advertised at 10.75:1 with 64cc heads, I run 60cc Edelbrock Performers. So I assume I'm around 11:1 (could do some math to be sure) The only mods to the heads are the installation of the Comp Beehive springs. I saw them in a MM&FF article, sounded great to me and my original springs were worn out for sure. These things will rev to 6700rpm with no float whatsoever. The intake is a Cobra piece, the upper is extrude honed and opened up to match a 75mm TB, the lower was somewhat ported when I bought it, I went a little more and polished the crap out of the runners. It matches the intake ports on the heads perfectly. The heads and intake are too small for an all out 347, but it makes huge torque for a daily driver. I run a TFS Stage 2 with 1.7 rollers, nets around .600 lift and duration is stretched to about 230/238 with the rockers. I use a Tweecer and wideband for tuning, makes it idle like a stocker, save for the 850rpm idle speed. I ran 3.73's in the '95, but when I went with the added torque of the 347, I dropped back to 3.27's. Makes wheelspin a whole lot easier to control between the stoplights, and third gear onramps are plain scary. Rest of the car is same old, same old bolt ons, it's on page 2 of my website, I'll get some more pics in there to look at.

As far as running 11:1 and a 150 shot. My gut tells me that's not a great idea for longevity. You could probably make 450hp with a 347 using a hydraulic roller camshaft. Anderson makes some high rev units, I like to shift at or below 6K on the street, so I'm not sure how feasible it would be to build a 7K motor without going to a solid roller setup, then you need new valvesprings and supporting lightweight hardware. A 150shot would be getting you darn close to the limits of the stock block. It may break after one spray, or after a hundred, but you'd definitely be knocking on the door.

[232stang]

once i know a bit more about engines, i will be able to help with almost every aspect of cars, and i am taking a engines course right now

[mysteed]

Eh, I work at a ford dealership, so I get my share of engine work.

[232stang]

now we just need jason to get in here and approvehttp://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/images/smilies/scratchchin.gif

[thumpin347]

joe for mod

[Joe Friday]

as long as you take that mustang banner off the windshield...car looks clean man, now find yourself a KB BLOWN DOHC 4.6 to stuff in there
Fixed :D

[232stang]

Fixed :D
lol, but that would be a great motor

[mysteed]

how bout a 04 cobra engine w/ TT's instead?

[Joe Friday]

how bout a 04 cobra engine w/ TT's instead?

yeah that would work as well, as long as it's built to hold alot of boost. :D

[thumpin347]

yeah that would work as well, as long as it's built to hold alot of boost. :D
stock 03/04 cobra blocks are stuffed with near bulletproof bottom ends with forged manley rods, forged crank and pistons. it'll definately handle past 20lbs of SC boost. turbo route, maybe a bit less, but alot of 8-10psi 302 based motors with a single turbo are pumping out 600+ with times in the 10s. definately a good basis for an FI motor

[Joe Friday]

stock 03/04 cobra blocks are stuffed with near bulletproof bottom ends with forged manley rods, forged crank and pistons. it'll definately handle past 20lbs of SC boost. turbo route, maybe a bit less, but alot of 8-10psi 302 based motors with a single turbo are pumping out 600+ with times in the 10s. definately a good basis for an FI motor

needs more 42 lbs.. :D


but yeah so about the moderator thing...... :D

[thumpin347]

needs more 42 lbs.. :D


but yeah so about the moderator thing...... :D
ha, 42lbs of boost will need alcohol/methanol injection

[Joe Friday]

It can be done on race fule :insert devil smiley here:

[232stang]

but yeah so about the moderator thing...... :D