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yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:41 PM
Ok I just wanted to get a good idea where my car stands with 286 hp 285 ftlbs torque without nitrous. Any numbers would be appreciated.

4.6
09-29-2005, 09:46 PM
Not bad, not bad at all.. What do you have done to it?

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:47 PM
Dang near everything. The only thing left is to upgrade the fuel system

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:47 PM
still running stock rails,injectors,pump

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:48 PM
4.6 read mod list on webpage

4.6
09-29-2005, 09:51 PM
4.6 read mod list on webpage

Just did.. Out of curiosity, after reading the list, has it been dyno tuned. Those numbers seem to be a a little low. I was at a YMR show a couple weeks ago, and a guy with an 01 Gt with a whole hell of a lot fewer mods that you put down 303 ftlbs N/A can't remember the HP numbers. This was after a tune.

J
09-29-2005, 09:52 PM
Ive witnessed A stock 99+ GT with CAI only get 239 at the wheels.

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:54 PM
Yeah it cost me 900.00 to get the damned thing tuned and to be totally honest with ya i think they gave me a real safe tune. i dont have enough miles yet to get a nitrous tune yet car only had like 2000 miles on the new moter wheni got it tuned

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:55 PM
I had to trade my diablo sport in for the diablo predator as well so that was some of the cost. but they said when i get back and am ready they will retune it and give me a nitrous tune for 125.00

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:55 PM
the guy said he would guess i have 330 at the flywheel

4.6
09-29-2005, 09:55 PM
Yeah it cost me 900.00 to get the damned thing tuned and to be totally honest with ya i think they gave me a real safe tune. i dont have enough miles yet to get a nitrous tune yet car only had like 2000 miles on the new moter wheni got it tuned

Sounds that way. If my thinking is correct that setup should put you at 300 or just a little better.

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:56 PM
I got it done at The Dyno Shop in San Diego. Also dont forget we only get 93 Octane out here at the pumps

n00b420
09-29-2005, 09:57 PM
453rwhp on my 4.6... blown of corse...

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:57 PM
yeah thats what my moter builder said.. He was as pissed as I was. He said it should hit between 310 and 320

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 09:59 PM
Thats coming soon as i get rich noob. Novi 2000

4.6
09-29-2005, 09:59 PM
I got it done at The Dyno Shop in San Diego. Also dont forget we only get 93 Octane out here at the pumps

300hp on 93 should be no problem..

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:00 PM
i got 130 hp increase with a 125 shot on my stock moter with stock internals so now with the intake and forged crap i can up it to a 250 shot if i choose to

n00b420
09-29-2005, 10:00 PM
i was just stating my numbers for ya heh

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:01 PM
stock moter and 125 shot got me a 13 seconds flat at 114 mph so I cant wait to try it again

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:02 PM
ok fellow stangers i have to get some food in my tummy. lets see them numbers. thanks

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:03 PM
Cobra mike from BMC was there If he is on here he will tell ya bout it lol

Crazzy_Al
09-29-2005, 10:08 PM
Ive witnessed A stock 99+ GT with CAI only get 239 at the wheels.

I'm nearly certain that Ryan (guy with the Blue GT with the Stalker kit on it) put down even less than that...with quite a few more mods.

J
09-29-2005, 10:19 PM
Nah i seen his dyno sheet (he had me hold it) he told me all it had done was CAI

Crazzy_Al
09-29-2005, 10:25 PM
Nah i seen his dyno sheet (he had me hold it) he told me all it had done was CAI

And he's told everyone else on one of the local boards here in MI that there has been quite a bit of shit that has been done to thye car over this past summer to increase the performance of the car.

J
09-29-2005, 10:30 PM
And he's told everyone else on one of the local boards here in MI that there has been quite a bit of shit that has been done to thye car over this past summer to increase the performance of the car.
LOL.. maybe im losing my mind, but I think 240 RWHP sums up how much he has done to his car. lol

Crazzy_Al
09-29-2005, 10:32 PM
LOL.. maybe im losing my mind, but I think 240 RWHP sums up how much he has done to his car. lol

You said it, not me. :lol:

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:58 PM
i only had 234 to the wheels when i first started 225 torque and thats with a shit ton of bolt ons

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 10:59 PM
a better tune have me 234 i think

yosemiddysam
09-29-2005, 11:00 PM
all my mods gave me 52 rwhp with this safe tune

yosemiddysam
09-30-2005, 12:39 AM
but i should see a bigger jump with nitrous

yosemiddysam
09-30-2005, 02:49 AM
atleast I hope. Bring on the numbers

Wrench
09-30-2005, 09:39 AM
There is something real wrong there. Your tq numbers are way to low. With my mods I put down 297rwhp and 319rwtq on three straight runs. To have that kind of work done with those numbers something isn't right. With just the cai and headers off-road h-pipe(wich is now an x ) and flows I put down 264rwhp and 301rwtq. Something is roobing you man. I hope you get it figured out because you would have a real beast on your hands.

yosemiddysam
10-02-2005, 04:14 PM
What could it be

ClintEastwood
10-02-2005, 05:54 PM
i think J is on to something here...how can you have "pretty much everything" done to it but only putting out such low number.

Shoulda got a camaro.

yosemiddysam
10-02-2005, 09:41 PM
i cant tell ya. I have all the receipts and personally seen all my parts befor ethey got installed and I checked the port and polishing job. i really dont understand why it is so low. the guy named Sean from MAS "ya might have seen his 03 cobra in MMFF cobra shootout" built the moter and he told me that the guy must have gave me a super safe tune because he thought the engine would be at least 310 but no more that 330. I think when i get back im gonna take it somewhere else and have it tuned again. Hell they charged me 900.00 for the diablo predator chip and they tuning on the dyno. They all was acting like Dang man that is a sweet number for my car. I told them i thought it was a lil low and they said that it was Respectfull for a 2 v 4.6. I spent 10 g's on that damned moter so yeah as you can guess i was not impressed.over 3 of that was just in labor. i think when i get it ready for a nitrous tune i am going to have them tune it again for regular and see what happens. If anyone can think of any reasons or things that might be holding my numbers down please let me know

Crazzy_Al
10-02-2005, 10:08 PM
...I spent 10 g's on that damned moter...

Damn, you got took! They saw you coming!!!

yosemiddysam
10-02-2005, 10:13 PM
well the intake alone was 1500.00

yosemiddysam
10-02-2005, 10:14 PM
i dont know we will see when i get it re-done

Crazzy_Al
10-02-2005, 10:15 PM
well the intake alone was 1500.00

Like I said, "they saw you coming."

ClintEastwood
10-02-2005, 10:19 PM
shoulda got a camaro....

Crazzy_Al
10-02-2005, 10:24 PM
shoulda got a camaro....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

J
10-02-2005, 10:35 PM
10gs? You should be in the 400s

yosemiddysam
10-02-2005, 11:24 PM
Yeah I know. I should have just bought an 03 cobra moter

Crazzy_Al
10-03-2005, 07:32 AM
Yeah I know. I should have just bought an 03 cobra moter

Or 2 or 3 of them for that price. You could have gotten the whole drivetrain (oil pan to blower, trans and all) and still had a good amount of money left over to mod it up. Oh well, hindsight is always 20/20.

Wrench
10-03-2005, 09:23 AM
OK.....a compatition intake like the p-51 from fox lake will run you about 1500, so that is understandable. The next thing is what is your compresion at and are you running a stroker motor. these things combined could help in the explanation. If the pistons are at 8-8.5, that is a big loss when running n/a. And without it being stroked it would explain the loss in torque. If it was built to be run forced induction/bottle fed ok I can see it, But with compresion that low it would be set up for HIGH BOOST/or a BIG SHOT( 250 or higher). The next question is what is it stable at. 600 hp? If so the guy who put it together went with the wrong combos. You would be feeding the motor more then the internals could handle. Give me the specs on your motor build and we will figure this out :beerchug: