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stalker
05-26-2005, 10:54 PM
Which is the best way to go, and Why?
My Cobra
05-26-2005, 10:57 PM
blower. hear bad things about the tuning with turbos
V6SSTANG
05-26-2005, 10:59 PM
Turbo, superchargers use a lot of engine power
SDRMustang1
05-26-2005, 10:59 PM
blower. hear bad things about the tuning with turbos
:thumbup: My mechanic would go blower over turbo anyday...
MachGT
05-26-2005, 11:01 PM
depends on what you want out of your car really. I like superchargers because they are easy to tune.

and turbos take engine power to run as well. They are quite an exhaust restriction.

you can make gobs of power with either one, you will get more low end with the turbo. but for that you can get a twin screw blower like a kennebell and not have the tuning issues associated with a turbo.
V6SSTANG
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa?forumID=16&threadID=7233&tstart=135

Take a look through that, I had this bookmarked
Joe Friday
05-27-2005, 06:03 AM
Turbo any day of the week. Easier on the engine since it's not taking power to make mroe power. Turbos use energy left over from the compustion, heat and exhaust gas to make more power by forcing air into the engine. It's more efficient, plus if you want to adjust bost you simpley tab a button a few times instead of swapping out a pully.
Hockeyb0y3
05-27-2005, 07:56 AM
Turbo any day of the week. Easier on the engine since it's not taking power to make mroe power. Turbos use energy left over from the compustion, heat and exhaust gas to make more power by forcing air into the engine. It's more efficient, plus if you want to adjust bost you simpley tab a button a few times instead of swapping out a pully.

i agree with this 100% eventhough i have a s/c
MachGT
05-27-2005, 09:07 AM
Turbo any day of the week. Easier on the engine since it's not taking power to make mroe power. Turbos use energy left over from the compustion, heat and exhaust gas to make more power by forcing air into the engine. It's more efficient, plus if you want to adjust bost you simpley tab a button a few times instead of swapping out a pully.


Ok, people keep missing this... Turbos do take power to run. Your putting a big restriction in your exhaust with a turbo. They give more torque in the low end because of the added back pressure, but at higher rpm they take plenty of hp to run as well.

You don't get power for nothing. Turbos are a bit more efficient as far as the power to run them then superchargers are but they definitely take power to spin them.

stick some 1" exhaust pipes on your car sometime and see what it does to your high end horsepower
Droptop2001GT
05-27-2005, 10:05 AM
The turbo doesn't restrict the exhaust nearly as much as the S/C pulley adds parasitic drag to the drive belt. Pound for pound (of boost), the turbo makes more power, and more torque - plain and simple. But the initial cost is more expensive than a supercharger (for mustang kits). If you've got the money to do it right, the turbo will make more power than the supercharger.

Read this http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question122.htm
Droptop2001GT
05-27-2005, 10:10 AM
Ok, people keep missing this... Turbos do take power to run. Your putting a big restriction in your exhaust with a turbo. They give more torque in the low end because of the added back pressure, but at higher rpm they take plenty of hp to run as well.

You don't get power for nothing. Turbos are a bit more efficient as far as the power to run them then superchargers are but they definitely take power to spin them.

stick some 1" exhaust pipes on your car sometime and see what it does to your high end horsepower
That's just rediculous. Who in the hell would run 1" exhaust pipes? Part of the requirements for a good turbo kit would be the larger diameter exhaust tubing. Any time you forcefeed your engine with boost, you need to run a more free-flowing exhaust setup. A 1" exhaust setup would hurt a supercharged stang just as much as a turbo car. Either way the engine air has to escape before more can be forced in.
MachGT
05-27-2005, 12:22 PM
Your not getting the point. I'm not saying that the turbo isn't more efficient then the supercharger. I'm just saying that it does take power to run it. It's not free power. the only power adder that doesn't take power to run is nitrous.

the point of the 1" pipe comment is that the turbo is a restriction. I'm not saying that you should run 1" exhaust lol
5.0literriceeater
05-28-2005, 12:38 PM
From what I have seen, and I am no expert on either one, a properly sized turbo will out power a centrifugal charger every time. And the torque numbers seem to be unattainable with the centri sc. The twin screw or roots seems to be the way to go with a 6000 rpm street car because it gives instant power. But if ya build an engine to rev a bit higher, the turbo will eat the superchargers.

Dont flame me here guys. This is just what i have heard from dealers and racers in my area.
spiffy
05-28-2005, 12:55 PM
TUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOO OO they take nothing away frome the egine its almost free horse hp added the fact you have the buy the turbo just get your self a intercooler
spiffy
05-28-2005, 01:00 PM
http://www.turbomustangs.com/ http://www.toohighpsi.com/ http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=15 I HAVE A SMILEY IDEA SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE ONE HOLDING A TURBO OR A TURBO SUCKING UP A SMILEY
MachGT
05-28-2005, 07:31 PM
A turbo is not free horsepower, to think that is the case is ignoring any semblence of common sense
Roush2960
05-28-2005, 09:37 PM
I say KB...But what would I know on that subject.

Turbo is just as good but you will have a hard time finding a complete kit and a tuner that will know how to tune one.

For the easy of install, reliability(Long term) and $$ go with a supercharger.

./M@
MachGT
05-28-2005, 10:01 PM
I'd love to have a turbo setup but I wouldn't do it without a motor that's built to handle it
My Cobra
05-29-2005, 01:31 AM
i hear peopel saying that the average wait time on a turbo is around 9 months. for a complete turbo kit. but that is just waht they say on SVTperformance.
MachGT
05-29-2005, 08:09 AM
i hear peopel saying that the average wait time on a turbo is around 9 months. for a complete turbo kit. but that is just waht they say on SVTperformance.


A friend of mine got a Hellion kit in a week after ordering it on his 2000 GT.
NoSlo5.0
05-29-2005, 11:16 AM
The turbo is going to be easier on engine parts for the same rwhp. That s/c adds a huge load to the snout of your crankshaft that the turbo doesn't.

Skip both and drop a high compression 408 in there instead.
spiffy
05-29-2005, 04:56 PM
A turbo is not free horsepower, to think that is the case is ignoring any semblence of common sensewhen i say free i mean it doesnt take any horse power away from the engine its runs of the exhaust flow the worse thing you get from it is back pressure with really itsnt that bad as far as i know
spiffy
05-29-2005, 05:00 PM
theres still only so much proformance you will get out of ether the turbo or s/c with out geting forged rods and pistons
MachGT
05-29-2005, 05:16 PM
when i say free i mean it doesnt take any horse power away from the engine its runs of the exhaust flow the worse thing you get from it is back pressure with really itsnt that bad as far as i know


Ahhh, I C. I was referring only to horsepower consumption.

Either way, boost is fun regardless of how you get it :devil: